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1 Those who
travel must
be preserved.
The cycle must
be completed.
Preserved.
Ensured.
Tended.
the pact of time
Custodian
must
be
honored.
2
3 No beginning. No end.
No past. No future.
Seed. Rebirth.
Seed. Rebirth.
Chaos. Order.
Growth. LIFE eternal.
This is not death.
4 No beginning.
No end. No past.
No future.
5 What
is undone
can be done, but
what is done
can never be
undone.
6 What is done
can never be
undone.
7 You're walking
through a red forest.
And the grass is tall.
It's just rained.
Most of the blood has washed away.

There's a house in the distance.
Cedar and pine.
You've been there before.
You are not alone.
There is a man.
See him.
And know him.
Like a memory
of tomorrow.
8 If God looked
down at the universe
there would be no change of
         time
9 Time does not exist before the beginning
10 No end
11 Initial
conditions
12 February 2041
James Cole and
the Traveler
enter
Project Splinter
for the first
time
13 You're walking
through a red forest.
And the grass is tall
14
1.2737°S (36.8167°E) = 40.5471°N (74.8959°W)
   Z
15 When time is ta = t0 < t1 < tn-1 < tn < tn+1 = tb...
Time can be sliced into n+1 segments tj-tj[-1], where j = 1,...n+1, of fixed duration
16 In the beginning of the universe, time
gave way to space. There was only space, time
did not yet exist. Therefore there would be no
beginning. No time means no beginning.
No beginning means no end.
No boundaries. Not even death.
17 1952
Causal
loop <...>
and <...> paradox
18 Birth creates time
creates death.
19 Primary
paradox yields
10^10000x off. foliage
Distortion present
at top anomalies
incr. at rate of t = 50 µs (1+89)^t
where val. for t is calcu[l]able.
20 Moscow
1993
21 2003
August
22 The path is integral
23 splinter yields
1:1 off foliage
<...> as of
growth.
24 40.5471°N
74.8959°W
Temporal
Facility
25 Those who travel
must be
preserved.
The cycle must
be completed.
Preserved.
Ensured.
Tended.
The pact of the time Custodian
must be honored.
26 We are time
Our very
consciousness
creates it
27 We are time
Our very consciousness
creates it
28 Locusts
move
seasons
29 The age of Einstein and Planck will be no more,
though it will have no true end. There is no
true end.
30 Time
is a
<...>.
Time is a
CURSE
31 xn+1 = 4xn(1 - xn), 0 ≤ x0 ≤ 1
32 <...>
<...>
January 2003
33 Time does not exist
before the beginning
34 Change
is not possible
35
𝜀 = Δt =   tb-ta
  n+1  
36 The natural order
is no longer sufficient
37 Change
is not possible
38

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sotlat
Mar. 26th, 2017 01:56 am (UTC)
16
In the beginning of the <...>

In the beginning of the universe ?

ETA: I don't think it would be much of a stretch to fill in the missing words for 3 & 7 based on known passages.

There are some interesting things in this section (like the above passage, which could be about the connection between Primaries and Time and the 1958 note which could be about Cassie/Cole living there or Leland Goines being born). It's too bad we don't have any clearer shots of this part. Hopefully we get some for close-ups in season 3.

Edited at 2017-03-26 02:09 am (UTC)
calme_rut
Apr. 9th, 2017 06:19 pm (UTC)
Re: 16
> ETA: I don't think it would be much of a stretch to fill in the missing words for 3 & 7 based on known passages.

Unfortunately, I do not understand what you mean. Are you saying that the text is known, although we do not see it, and we should put it there? I agree that this is true for #7, although I do not see "y" where the word "away" should be and "d" in "and". But as for #3, I'm not sure that there is the word (Growth) there because several words intersect there.

Also I found that "40.5471°N 74.8959°W" are the coordinates of Raritan Township - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raritan_Township,_New_Jersey .

(Also I was thinking about notes. I would like to link the map and episodes (for example: "Aug 2017 Death - first cycle. -- Episode 1.09 (34:24)"), to explain the formulas, give options for reading words, etc. I did such, but they are in Russian language.)

Edited at 2017-04-09 06:22 pm (UTC)
sotlat
Apr. 10th, 2017 02:39 am (UTC)
Re: 16
Are you saying that the text is known, although we do not see it, and we should put it there?I/>

Pretty much. The repeated passages seem to be fairly consistent other than the odd repeated word. However, if you don't want to do that until we get better visual confirmation, that's fine, too.

Also I found that "40.5471°N 74.8959°W" are the coordinates of Raritan Township

Interesting. Makes sense that the Splinter facility would be deemed important.

I would like to link the map and episodes (for example: "Aug 2017 Death - first cycle. -- Episode 1.09 (34:24)"), to explain the formulas, give options for reading words, etc

Okay. I'm not sure time codes will always work, unless it's to a specific screen cap or something. The time codes might vary a bit depending on the format, too (DVD vs steaming, iTunes, etc).
calme_rut
Apr. 23rd, 2017 05:41 pm (UTC)
Re: 16
> Pretty much. The repeated passages seem to be fairly consistent other than the odd repeated word.

I understood that you are right. I can correct those sections that need correction, noting the unclear words in yellow (I did so earlier, although I understand that this is a controversial decision). But I do not know what to do with A6. Obviously, the end of this section should be: "You've been there before. You're not alone, you're not alone; here is a man.", but I think there are other words.




> Interesting. Makes sense that the Splinter facility would be deemed important.

I did not find the same equations, but I think that first coordinates are the end point, last are point of dispatch. (Although I'm surprised by the coordinates of Kenya.)

I looked again at this section:



Perhaps the last digit is 0 (39.7910°N, 86.1480°W), then it is the coordinates of Indianapolis.

I saw also that Jones recorded some coordinates on the Wall:





Edited at 2017-04-23 05:42 pm (UTC)
sotlat
Apr. 24th, 2017 02:45 am (UTC)
Re: 16
But I do not know what to do with A6. Obviously, the end of this section should be: "You've been there before. You're not alone, you're not alone; here is a man.", but I think there are other words.

I think it might just be "You've been here before" repeated:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3qKKumIw-pSVVozZjRsUVlzWEU/view?usp=sharing

Perhaps the last digit is 0 (39.7910°N, 86.1480°W), then it is the coordinates of Indianapolis.

It does look like it could be a '0'.

I saw also that Jones recorded some coordinates on the Wall

That's interesting that the same coordinates are also on Jones' map. I thought they only had the sphere drawing in common.
calme_rut
Apr. 24th, 2017 07:00 pm (UTC)
Re: 16
> I think it might just be "You've been here before" repeated

It seems that you are right. Thank you.

> That's interesting that the same coordinates are also on Jones' map. I thought they only had the sphere drawing in common.

Perhaps Jones copied the coordinates from Rodell's paper.

About the sphere and the netting. The closest thing I found is images of spacetime curvature or black hole/wormhole:



I do not understand what the circles/ellipses are, but perhaps they are related to spherical geometry or spherical astronomy:


calme_rut
May. 8th, 2017 05:02 pm (UTC)
Taltos, I did part 'G' - http://word-witness.livejournal.com/5651.html . Look, please.
sotlat
Apr. 12th, 2017 07:22 am (UTC)
Re: 16
I went through and matched what I could (via DVD) for season 1:

A12 - 1990
Death of
Cassandra
Railly <...>

-- *if* referring to her mother's death -> referenced in 101 Splinter - 04:03

B9 - 2014
Dr. Railly with
CDC in <...>

-- assuming this refers to Haiti - 103 Cassandra Complex - 10:24 (Cassie's arrival)

D12 -February 2041
James Cole and
the Traveler
join
Project Splinter
R. V. nat
lab

--101 Splinter - 12:23
& 109 Tomorrow - 08:41

E1 - Syracuse, New York
1980
Birth of
Cassandra
Railly

--101 Splinter - 03:58
--Wall : http://www.syfy.com/12monkeys/wall/img/walls/railly/full/railly_BirthCertificate.png

E2 - Aug 2017
Death - first
cycle

--106 The Red Forest - 07:12 (news articles shown as Alternate Jones researches Cassie)

F10 - 1995
The Traveler
is released
from Fuchu
Prison

--111 Shonin - 16:26

F15 - 1987
James Cole
<...>
Arrival of the
Traveler

--111 Shonin - 00:49 (Ramse's arrival)

F17 - Desember
9th 1988

*--typo - December

L5 - Oct 2015
Groom
Primary Goines
to become
Markridge CEO

--112 Paradox - 14:35

L6 - May 2043
The Traveler
splinters to 1987

--110 Divine Move - 40:13

L7 - February
2015
Second meeting
of James Cole and
Dr. Cassandra Railly
John Adams
hotel

--101 Splinter - 11:20

Wall reference noting Leland's death in January: http://www.syfy.com/12monkeys/wall/img/walls/virus/full/Virus_Markridge_Letter.png

L12 - Aug 2015
Operation
Troy

--106 The Red Forest - 06:18 - first mention
--107 The Keys - whole episode

L [unnumbered] - 2013 First meeting of James Cole and Dr. Casandra Railly
101 Splinter - 02:52

M3 - 1987
The Traveler
in Fuchu Prison

-- 111 Shonin - 10:32

M13 - Primary Goines
says "everything's
changing from
green to
red" 2011

--111 Shonin - 22:13
calme_rut
Apr. 12th, 2017 06:17 pm (UTC)
Re: 16
> I went through and matched what I could (via DVD) for season 1

Thank you. Although I thought that many events do not have a specific time, only the time range "from and to." Maybe it's better to write "starting with [min:sec]", or specify a time range, or remove the link for a while, leaving only a episode.

> 106 The Red Forest - 07:12 (news articles shown as Alternate Jones researches Cassie)

This her death occurred in 2015.

> L6 - May 2043
The Traveler
splinters to 1987
--110 Divine Move - 40:13


And beginning of 111, maybe?

sotlat
Apr. 14th, 2017 09:29 am (UTC)
Re: 16
Although I thought that many events do not have a specific time, only the time range "from and to." Maybe it's better to write "starting with [min:sec]", or specify a time range, or remove the link for a while, leaving only a episode.

Time ranges might be tricky as some things could go over multiple scenes. Eg. 'Operation Troy' I believe is mentioned in three different scenes in 'The Red Forest' (Alternate Jones mentions it, Aaron sees a file labelled with it in Royce's office, then I think Aaron tells Cassie about it at the end). How specific to get will probably need to be on a case by case basis. Eg. Kyle Slade's paradox is never actually seen on screen as Cole prevents it, so for that one we could just refer people to 'Immortal', but we can't get more specific. For the times I noted, I was aiming for the actual event/mention or the beginning of a relevant scene.

This her death occurred in 2015.

Oops, mixed up her 'first' deaths. Her 2017 one should be in 109 Tomorrow.

And beginning of 111, maybe?

I'd have to rewatch, but I think Ramse just appears in 1987 at the beginning of 111, so it should go with this one:

F15 - 1987
James Cole
<...>
Arrival of the
Traveler
--111 Shonin - 00:49 (Ramse's arrival)
calme_rut
Apr. 16th, 2017 10:50 am (UTC)
Re: 16
> I think Ramse just appears in 1987 at the beginning of 111

He appears at the end of 110, at the beginning of 111 there is a continuation of his appearance.
calme_rut
Jul. 8th, 2018 06:25 pm (UTC)
sotlat
Jun. 3rd, 2017 06:35 am (UTC)
?
Location: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3qKKumIw-pSdkFTRG9KUnI1Z00
Close-up: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3qKKumIw-pSYVp3LXJicldwU00

<..> 1986
Discovery of
Remains in
Himalayas

Edited at 2017-06-07 10:57 pm (UTC)
sotlat
Feb. 19th, 2018 03:16 am (UTC)
27
>We are time
Our consciousness
creates it


It looks like there is an extra word in there, maybe:

We are time
Our very consciousness
creates it

I got this from on an old twitter post of Terry's . It's not very hi-res, but give a different view of the bottom left corner. Under the smudgy part (right of #27), it looks like it says 'CURSE'.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dKBXPp2UR227UfsQ3MF6O5_jx8fMC4S4/view?usp=sharing
calme_rut
Feb. 23rd, 2018 04:03 pm (UTC)
Re: 27
> It looks like there is an extra word in there, maybe: 'We are time Our very consciousness creates it'

Probably, you are right. #26 also has extra word, and the word has a loop in the end.

> I got this from on an old twitter post of Terry's . It's not very hi-res, but give a different view of the bottom left corner.

I did not know that large copy of this image is. Thanks!

> Under the smudgy part (right of #27), it looks like it says 'CURSE'.

I looked the map from episode 309, where there are still no spots.



For me it's like:

Time
<...> <...>
<...>
Time is
CURSE

I also probably saw few sections:



-1-
xn+1 = 4xn(1 - xn), 0 ≤ x0 ≤ 1

-2-
<...>
<...>
January 20_3

-3-
Time does not exist
before the beginning

-4-
Change
is not possible

-5-
𝜀 = Δt =  tb-ta
 n+1 
sotlat
Feb. 24th, 2018 06:35 am (UTC)
Re: 27
>I did not know that large copy of this image is. Thanks!

I think Twitter changed how they encode photos, as I believe I tried to get the picture when it was first posted, but was unable to.

>Time
<...> <...>
<...>
Time is
CURSE


It looks like there are two tiny words following each 'Time', perhaps:

Time
is a
<...>
Time is a
CURSE

It could be something contradictory like "Time is a blessing, Time is a curse", but it's pretty much impossible to tell what that missing word looks like, other than it is fairly long.
calme_rut
Feb. 26th, 2018 06:14 pm (UTC)
Re: 27


-1-
The natural order
is no longer sufficient

-2-
Coordinates?

-3-
Change
is not possible

-B12-
Time
is a curse
sotlat
Feb. 27th, 2018 02:35 am (UTC)
12
.February 2041
James Cole and
the Traveler
enter
Project Splinter
R. V. nat
labs


I don't think it says 'R.V. nat labs'. To me, it looks like it says 'for the first <..>'. "For the first time" seems most likely, but I'm not sure the letters match:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vq3uFV6Q88xkasjJnO0gfDv9EdRroAD_
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